Helpful Score: 4
This is one of my favorite science fiction novels. Though it is a completely different story - it *is* in many ways a sequel to his Forever War. Haldeman explores the notion of a lasting peace and how humanity might achieve such a lasting peace.
The setting is our world divided by conflict between the haves and the have-nots. The economically advanced nations fight their wars by sending in Soldierboys - robots controlled by mind-meshed soldiers. The have-nots respond with guerilla warfare and whatever weaponry they have on hand. Meanwhile there is a secret science project going on on the moons of Jupiter in an attempt to recreate the Big Bang and a shadowy group called the Enders who are trying to bring on the End of things.
If the Enders succeed then there will be Forever Peace - simply being the absence of anyone or anything. The other road to Forever Peace involves true understanding and it is that path that Haldeman presents in this book and which I think we really need in our world.
The setting is our world divided by conflict between the haves and the have-nots. The economically advanced nations fight their wars by sending in Soldierboys - robots controlled by mind-meshed soldiers. The have-nots respond with guerilla warfare and whatever weaponry they have on hand. Meanwhile there is a secret science project going on on the moons of Jupiter in an attempt to recreate the Big Bang and a shadowy group called the Enders who are trying to bring on the End of things.
If the Enders succeed then there will be Forever Peace - simply being the absence of anyone or anything. The other road to Forever Peace involves true understanding and it is that path that Haldeman presents in this book and which I think we really need in our world.
Helpful Score: 1
Julian Class is a full-time professor and part-time combat veteran who spends a third of each month virtually wired to a robotic "soldierboy." The soldierboys, along with flyboys and other advanced constructs, allow the U.S. to wage a remotely controlled war against constant uprisings in the Third World. The conflicts are largely driven by the so-called First World countries' access to nanoforges--devices that can almost instantly manufacture any product imaginable, given the proper raw materials--and the Third World countries' lack of access to these devices. But even as Julian learns that the consensual reality shared by soldierboy operators can lead to universal peace, the nanoforges create a way for humanity to utterly destroy itself, and it will be a race against time to see which will happen first. Although Forever Peace bears a title similar to Joe Haldeman's classic novel The Forever War, he says it's not a sequel.
Helpful Score: 1
Not a sequel, but one of the possible futures in parallel with the Forever War. This book tossed around several interesting concepts and stitches them together more-or-less successfully. Despite the turns in the plot, I found myself enjoying this book.
Helpful Score: 1
Decent story and plot, horribly written. Haldeman had a few instant classics but his quality has dropped off tremendously.
Not the "Forever War" but still pretty good.
I missed this when it came out in '97 and spent a few days chewing on it. Its not bad - it's not The Forever War and suffers by comparison, but its pretty good. It revolves around the life of one Sergeant Julian Class, platoon leader for a bunch of neurally interfaced, tele-operated 'soldier boys.' For ten days he's on, and twenty he's off. He serves for the Alliance (the first world) against the Ngumi (a third world alliance). He's also a PhD physicist and professor.
And the Alliance he serves is familiar, but not intimately familiar to us. Its an America reshaped by warm fusion and the nanoforge: rationing of drugs and alcohol, compulsory national service, near universal unemployment. Add in a interminable war that reshapes everything, plus religious foment and its not a bad bit of world building.
As to the book and the plot itself, well, the back cover blurbs do a better job summarizing than I ever will. But, despite the premise and a character I liked, I felt the book was weak. To me, it almost felt like 3 books or novels were stitched together to make The Forever Peace. There was Class' story, the discovery at the Jupiter Project and its implications and last bit about the implications of the neural interfaces that are used by the military. The plot elements do grow logically, but, they feel like the were stuck together. Add in the stereotypical religious fanatics in the form of the 'Hammer of God' with cells through the government, and it doesn't quite gel.
If this had been split into two, or three books, I think it would have been great. As it is, it was merely good. Still, it was time well spent.
And the Alliance he serves is familiar, but not intimately familiar to us. Its an America reshaped by warm fusion and the nanoforge: rationing of drugs and alcohol, compulsory national service, near universal unemployment. Add in a interminable war that reshapes everything, plus religious foment and its not a bad bit of world building.
As to the book and the plot itself, well, the back cover blurbs do a better job summarizing than I ever will. But, despite the premise and a character I liked, I felt the book was weak. To me, it almost felt like 3 books or novels were stitched together to make The Forever Peace. There was Class' story, the discovery at the Jupiter Project and its implications and last bit about the implications of the neural interfaces that are used by the military. The plot elements do grow logically, but, they feel like the were stuck together. Add in the stereotypical religious fanatics in the form of the 'Hammer of God' with cells through the government, and it doesn't quite gel.
If this had been split into two, or three books, I think it would have been great. As it is, it was merely good. Still, it was time well spent.
Not as good as "Forever War" but still worth reading
Amazon.com Review
Julian Class is a full-time professor and part-time combat veteran who spends a third of each month virtually wired to a robotic "soldierboy." The soldierboys, along with flyboys and other advanced constructs, allow the U.S. to wage a remotely controlled war against constant uprisings in the Third World. The conflicts are largely driven by the so-called First World countries' access to nanoforges--devices that can almost instantly manufacture any product imaginable, given the proper raw materials--and the Third World countries' lack of access to these devices. But even as Julian learns that the consensual reality shared by soldierboy operators can lead to universal peace, the nanoforges create a way for humanity to utterly destroy itself, and it will be a race against time to see which will happen first. Although Forever Peace bears a title similar to Joe Haldeman's classic novel The Forever War, he says it's not a sequel. --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title.
From Library Journal
Veteran sf writer Haldeman views this novel not as a continuation of but as a follow-up to the problems raised in his highly acclaimed 1975 novel, Forever War. In the Universal Welfare State in 2043, draftees and volunteers link their brains to "soldierboy" war machines that do the actual fighting hundreds of miles away. Black physics professor and linked draftee Julian Class; his white mentor and lover, Dr. Amelia Harding; and her colleague Peter discover that the high-profile Jupiter Project is about to re-create the Big Bang that will destroy the solar system. The original 20 survivors of an experiment to link brains via implanted jacks discover they can turn people into pacifists by linking them for two weeks. Together with Julian and Amelia, the group stays one jump ahead of assassins as they try to stop the project and pacify key figures. At once a hard science, military, and political thriller, this book presents a thoughtful and hopeful solution to ending war in the 21st century. Essential for sf collections.
Julian Class is a full-time professor and part-time combat veteran who spends a third of each month virtually wired to a robotic "soldierboy." The soldierboys, along with flyboys and other advanced constructs, allow the U.S. to wage a remotely controlled war against constant uprisings in the Third World. The conflicts are largely driven by the so-called First World countries' access to nanoforges--devices that can almost instantly manufacture any product imaginable, given the proper raw materials--and the Third World countries' lack of access to these devices. But even as Julian learns that the consensual reality shared by soldierboy operators can lead to universal peace, the nanoforges create a way for humanity to utterly destroy itself, and it will be a race against time to see which will happen first. Although Forever Peace bears a title similar to Joe Haldeman's classic novel The Forever War, he says it's not a sequel. --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title.
From Library Journal
Veteran sf writer Haldeman views this novel not as a continuation of but as a follow-up to the problems raised in his highly acclaimed 1975 novel, Forever War. In the Universal Welfare State in 2043, draftees and volunteers link their brains to "soldierboy" war machines that do the actual fighting hundreds of miles away. Black physics professor and linked draftee Julian Class; his white mentor and lover, Dr. Amelia Harding; and her colleague Peter discover that the high-profile Jupiter Project is about to re-create the Big Bang that will destroy the solar system. The original 20 survivors of an experiment to link brains via implanted jacks discover they can turn people into pacifists by linking them for two weeks. Together with Julian and Amelia, the group stays one jump ahead of assassins as they try to stop the project and pacify key figures. At once a hard science, military, and political thriller, this book presents a thoughtful and hopeful solution to ending war in the 21st century. Essential for sf collections.
This is not a sequel to "The Forever War". But if you liked that book, then you will like this one too.
Totally different story from Forever War
As the tale unfolds, the nitty gritty side of the mechanized warriors and the unclean war Julian has been forced into become more clear. Haldeman also doesnt shrink from exploring the suicidal thoughts of Julian, delving into his reasons. There is also sex, which is equally beautiful and messed up (which is often how it is in real life). Blaze and a fellow scientist stumble into a discovery about the Jupiter Project that could end the known world, but how will they convince the right politicians and the scientific world in time? Add to that, Blaze and Julian have friends working secretly towards world peace, and they may just have the key to it..using the jacks. All told, it was an amazing story wholly different from The Forever War yet just was compelling having grabbed a hold of me (by the short and curlies) from the start and not letting go to the very end.
