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By a process of voting, participants on this forum have selected four broad topics that will each be filled out with ten categories of reads in our 2014 SF Challenge. Those broad topics are Authors, Firsts, Lost and Found, and Settings. In order to facilitate the process, I've drawn up a seed list of categories for us to discuss, revise, and possibly vote on, using this thread. 1) If you just want to modify or expand one of the categories, say so. Should be no problem. 2) If you really dislike one of the categories, propose an alternative. 3) If you have your own categories to propose, number them consistently. A run-off vote in that broad topic will probably be the outcome. Without further ado, here are the seed categories. (The seed categories were the first ten in each topic, the lists have later been edited with minor clarifying changes, and with additional proposals.) AUTHORS FIRSTS LOST AND FOUND SETTINGS Last Edited on: 12/22/13 11:11 AM ET - Total times edited: 11 |
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This is an excellent list. Thank you for coming up with the categories. There a couple of categories that are problematic for me, though. I have had issues in past challenges finding books that were published in my year of birth that I haven't read yet. And the Locus recommended First Novel list is so heavily skewed towards fantasy that finding an unread book that would qualify as science fiction will be very difficult. I would like to suggest a first book/collection by an author new to me or the first award winning book/collection of an author or perhaps a To go where no man has gone before category, a first to explore category. |
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Thanks. I numbered your recommendations. F11 First read of a new-to-you author (a novel or collection by the same writer) As for Locus-Recommened First Novel, 2012 was certainly a big problem for science fiction. I was hoping that by expanding it to cover four years, the selection would be better. Not? As for Birth Year, I had thought I read everything worth reading from 1955, but one of the previous challenges got me to look again, and I found The End of Eternity, by Isaac Asimov, which turned out to be very worthwhile. I haven't looked yet, but have high hopes for 1956. |
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The Locus recommended first novel list has had the same issue for a number of years, lots of fantasy and only a small amount of science fiction. You might consider expanding the selection to a Locus recommended first novel of any year. There are some books that were published in my year of birth that I haven't read yet but they haven't been reprinted in the last 3 decades and so are expensive to purchase (of course, I could always have a lucky thrift shop or library sale find but it's hard to schedule serendipity into a challenge). I'd like to add to the settings S11 Set on a space stace or orbital habitat S12 Set on a planet outside our solar system |
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Thanks for 'collection' by the way _____________________ Favorite author An author whose last name begins with the letter A An author whose last name begins with A, B or C First book read in 2014 Set within a series __________________________ Question - first birthday (when your age is one) or your actual birth day? Why not a Locus recommended first novel from any year? I will do more thinking. |
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Tom - Maybe update your first post to add the new proposed items, so your first post has all of them on it? Hmmm. The first by a male/female author last year I used it as the first book I've read by that author, not the first book by that author. S13 Set in an utopian/dystopian setting S14 Set in a male-only or female-only setting S15 Set in a simulated reality |
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Thanks all, so far. I've incorporated the new category proposals into the original post, as you can go back and review. And I've expanded the Locus Recommended First Novel to any year - if it's still a problem, it will not survive the voting. -Tom Hl. Question - first birthday (when your age is one) or your actual birth day? The year in which your age became one. Last Edited on: 12/18/13 1:11 PM ET - Total times edited: 4 |
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F14 First book read in 2014 -- tweak this to be first SF book in 2014? Either that or be willing to have that open to any genre.
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F14 First book read in 2014 -- tweak this to be first SF book in 2014? Either that or be willing to have that open to any genre. Heh! No one would do that! |
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Heh! No one would do that! Well, given that I've read 232 books so far this year, and only 48 of them were Sci-Fi (I'm acutally shocked I've read that many SF books this year!), it's pretty good odds that my first book won't be Sci Fi.
For Lost & Found, what about a "Lost in the Stacks" -- books that have been on your TBR for a long time, or if you don't have a big TBR, books that you've been meaning to read for a long time. The opposite of that could be a "Recent Find" -- say, found/purchased within the last 2 weeks/month? |
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"For Lost & Found, what about a "Lost in the Stacks" -- books that have been on your TBR for a long time, or if you don't have a big TBR, books that you've been meaning to read for a long time. The opposite of that could be a "Recent Find" -- say, found/purchased within the last 2 weeks/month?" Love both of these ideas. You could tweak it to specific, like "oldest book on your TBR" and "most recent book you found/purchased".
"Well, given that I've read 232 books so far this year, and only 48 of them were Sci-Fi" Yikes. That's not 232 fully completed is it? I wonder how many books I've opened this year, very few of them were a cover to cover read. Last Edited on: 12/18/13 2:50 PM ET - Total times edited: 1 |
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Yikes. That's not 232 fully completed is it? I wonder how many books I've opened this year, very few of them were a cover to cover read. Yep. Well, 233 now. I read really fast. Though that's a Goodreads count - which includes a handful of novellas, short stories and shorter books (like comic collections). I'm sure there's at least 200 full-length novels in that list. Considering that a couple of my reads this year have been well over 1,000 pages, I don't feel guilty about listing short works too. It all evens out in the end. Goodreads claims I've read 63,955 pages so far this year. Let's see... I didn't finish 7 books so far this year. I do finish the vast majority of books I start. |
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I recorded those most recent sugguestions as... L11 Lost in the Stacks (SF book that has been on your TBR for a long time - or otherwise been meaning to read for a long time) I think we are almost ready. If there are any last minute tweaks, make them now. I am going to put it up for a vote Friday at noon central time. -Tom Hl. PS - Melanti - notice that Lost in the Stacks and Hot Find have to be SF books! Last Edited on: 12/19/13 3:04 PM ET - Total times edited: 1 |
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PS - Melanti - notice that Lost in the Stacks and Hot Find have to be SF books! Guess I should have put that in my original post! It's certainly what I meant. The selections look good to me. |
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Before we start voting, I would like to propose that we accept ALL the categories given and just chose 10 from each section to complete our challenge. |
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Interesting idea Lisa! Generally speaking I'm in favor of more flexibility, but I'm okay with getting them down to 10 like other years. |
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Hmm. I would personally like to have a specific ten to pursue, rather than for example "choose any 10 out of 16". How about if we vote on and select ten, then allow substitutions or extensions if desired from the rest? Last Edited on: 12/20/13 1:44 PM ET - Total times edited: 1 |
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I'm okay with that. |
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Lisa, I don't want to start voting until it is clear what the votes would mean, or if we even need to have voting. What are your thoughts? -Tom Hl. |
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My idea was to eliminate the need to vote by accepting all of the suggestion and then each person would choose the ten they like the best for their personal challenge. You have pointed out that you'd like more structure but are willing to have the extra suggestion available as sustitutions. (Which I wish I had thought of in the beginning) So now my idea for simplifying the vote has complicated it. We have 3 plans--accept everything, vote on 10 but keep the others as possible substitutes, vote on 10 and discard the rest. I like the more flexible options but will accept whatever the majority would prefer. |
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I thought the same thing as Lisa. All categories are Ok by me (delete A12 if you decide to not vote) I'll probably end up tweaking my own list(s) anyways. Last Edited on: 12/21/13 1:17 AM ET - Total times edited: 1 |
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Generally, I'm in favor of structures that give us goals in common. I've already read a lot of science fiction, and am happy to steer in the direction of respected others (even re-reads) if it gives me something to chat about. Because we are in a medium without nuanced communications, I want to make sure everyone understands that I am just giving a preference. If we decide to move the needle a little further towards flexibity, I can use Lisa's proposal as a basis for a personal challenge. Anyone else want to give an opinion? Unless there is an outright objection, we can resolve this in the direction of flexibility. -Tom Hl.
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We are totally snowed in here today. So, hearing no further discussion, I will create that tracking thread and the first discussion thread for the 2014 SF Challenge this morning. -Tom Hl. |
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YAY! Thank you Tom, for setting up the challenge! |
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